IAOC Call at 11:00 AM EDT, Friday, October 24, 2008 Participants: Lynn St. Amour [Present] Fred Baker [Present] Bob Hinden [Present] Russ Housley [Present] Ole Jacobsen [Present] Ed Juskevicius [Present] Olaf Kolkman [Present] Ray Pelletier [Present] Jonne Soininen [Present; Chair] Marshall Eubanks [Secretary] --------- IAOC Agenda Action 0. Minutes 2 October, 2008 1. Response to IAB email regarding RFC Editor Restructuring RFP Committee recommends IAOC take action on IAB email - See below. 2. Ratify e-vote for Network Services RFP 3. Global Financial Crisis and Impact on IETF See attached 5%, 10% & 20% contingency budget. Update 1. APs update 2. Minneapolis 3. IETF 78 ----- Roll call was taken and the meeting was called to order. 0. Minutes 2 October, 2008 A motion to approve the minutes from 2 October, 2008 was made by Russ and was seconded by Jonne. The motion was unanimously approved. 1. Response to IAB email regarding RFC Editor Restructuring The IAB sent an email to the IAOC requesting certain actions and decisions. The IAOC has seven different recommendations: A. Create an RFC Services Selection Oversight Subcommittee. B. Appoint members of the IAOC, IAB, RFC Editor Advisory Board, the IRSG and the IAD to the subcommittee. C. The ISE selected by IAB using community process. D. The RFC Editor selection options be presented in RFI to inform IAOC of arguments for selection ways forward (RFP or similar to ISE). E. Stipend and expenses for RFC Editor. F. No Stipend and expenses for ISE to preserve independence. G. Permit creation of Advisory Boards for ISE and RFC Editor. The RFC Editor title is now RFC Series Editor. The Subcommittee agreed to a stipend for the RFC Editor (the goal of which is to not get stream representation, but to get subject matter knowledge) but not for the ISE to preserve its independence. The ISE stipend and expenses could be covered by a third party. Third parties could include ISOC if they so choose but there have been no discussions about that. Another possibility is that a third party might underwrite the ISE thus removing the need for a stipend and the IAOC is prepared to make a suggestion that ISOC to do this; although, something would need to be prepared to be put before the board. The Committee discussed the charter of the RFC Services Selection Oversight Subcommittee. The name with Subcommittee suggests that this is under the IAOC. From their understanding any IETF RFI and RFCs would have to be done by the IAOC. The charter itself discussed recommendations being made to the IAB. The RFP should be run by the IAB as well. The Committee then discussed membership comprised of an expert group to inform the IAOC. The list of members is as follows: 1. Olaf Kolkman, (IAB member) 2. Russ Housley, (IAOC member) 3. Leslie Daigle, (Experienced with RFC/RFP process) 4. Scott Bradner 5. Ray Pelletier, (IAD) 6. IRSG (Internet Research Steering Group) representative/Individual with IRSG expertise. A motion to approve the charter as proposed by Ray was made by Jonne. The motion was seconded by Fred. A discussion ensued regarding an amendment that this is terminated when the work is done, when the new contracts are in place. The amendment was accepted by the mover of the motion as a friendly amendment. There was a roll call regarding the motion put forth by Jonne. Lynn St. Amour [Yes] Fred Baker [Yes] Bob Hinden [Yes] Russ Housley [Yes] Ole Jacobsen [Yes] Ed Juskevicius [Yes] Olaf Kolkman [Yes] Jonne Soininen [Yes] The motion carried unanimously. Further discussion continued regarding the selection of a chair, and it was noted that the group would pick its own chair. Also discussed was that the IETF won't pay for the ISE but they will be given some tech support. The IETF will provide tech support for the ISE to manage its work flow. Next the Committee discussed the advisory boards with the idea that both Editors can make use of an advisory board, and that both would start with the current RFC Editor Advisory Board. There is a lot of value in having one editorial board shared by both. 2. Ratify e-vote for Network Services RFP An e-vote was conducted and passed to approve the Network Services RFP, Network_Services_RFP_10-17-08.doc A motion to ratify the e-vote on the Network Services RFP was made by Fred. The motion was seconded by Olaf. Without objections, the Network Services e-vote is ratified. 3. Global Financial Crisis and Impact on IETF Due to lack of time, this topic was not discussed by the Committee. Update – IETF 78 The Committee briefly discussed the status of IETF 78 and the fact that at that time SIDN had decided not to Host the meeting - confidential matter. Details not provided as matters involve contracts, negotiations, or hosts, sponsors, meeting venues under consideration and are confidential. The meeting was adjourned at 12:13 PM EDT.