IAOC meeting, 14:00 UTC, Thursday, 2010-07-15 Participants: Eric Burger [PRESENT] Marshall Eubanks [PRESENT] Bob Hinden [PRESENT, Chair] Russ Housley [PRESENT] Ole Jacobsen [PRESENT] Olaf Kolkman [PRESENT] Ray Pelletier [PRESENT, IAD] Lynn St. Amour [PRESENT] Henk Uijterwaal [PRESENT] Karen O'Donoghue [SCRIBE] Andrew Sullivan [SCRIBE] Greg Kapfer [GUEST] The Agenda was as follows: 0. Minutes 2010-06-10 1. IANA SLA 2. IAOC Admin Procedures 3. Budget Update IRTF RFC Editor 4. Maastricht Meeting Update 5. ISC Event 6. Privacy Policy Discussion 7. Maastricht Schedule Bob Hinden called the meeting to order at 14:04 UTC. 0. Minutes Marshall Eubanks moved to accept the minutes for the 2010-06-10 meeting. Henk Uijterwaal seconded the motion. There was no discussion and no objection. The minutes were approved. 1. IANA SLA Ray Pelletier outlined the changes to version 7 of the draft SLA document. The document appears to be ready, with a goal of execution in Maastricht. After some discussion it was agreed the document was ready to send to IANA. Action: Ray Pelletier to send the document to Michelle Cotton at IANA 2. IAOC ADMIN PROCEDURES Ray Pelletier thanked Henk Uijterwaal for his review of the latest draft, and then outlined the latest changes. He suggested that the document is ready to go back to the community for review. It was noted that it would be preferable to publish minutes for the retreat before the document is sent out, lest calls for the minutes distract from the discussion about the proposed procedures. Action: Ray Pelletier to send the latest document to IAOC list for review. Action: IAOC to hold an e-vote to approve the minutes of the retreat as soon as they are ready. 3. BUDGET UPDATE * IRTF: The IAOC had agreed to set aside $15,000 for the IRTF support budget. Ray Pelletier has exchanged email with Aaron Falk about how the funds would be used over the balance of the year. * RFC Series Editor: The cost of the 6 month contract with ISI was slightly greater than expected. This means there is a currently forecast funding shortfall for the RSE position. The actual RSE cost remains forecasted at what was originally projected, but could be lower, which would close the gap between the funding availability and actual cost. It may depend on what the expenses are for Maastricht and Beijing. There was some discussion about the presentation of the numbers, because they were using an uncommon convention. Lynn St. Amour suggested that terminology needs to be chosen carefully, because the funds were always to be allocated as a variance from the IAOC budget. Bob Hinden agreed, and said he was preparing his presentation for Maastricht and would soon circulate it for approval. 4. MAASTRICHT MEETING UPDATE Ray Pelletier reported that current registration appeared to be better than all meetings save two since IETF 71. Previous reports to the IAOC on registration were artificially low due to a clerical error. At the time of the meeting, there were more than 1000 registered attendees of which 798 had paid. Marshall Eubanks asked how hotel bookings looked. Ray Pelletier reported that they are lagging, but that it is believed that people are circumventing the housing bureau. The IETF normally sends the names of registered participants to hotels after the meeting anyway, so that there can be reconciliation of the meeting attendance and hotel bookings; this way the correct commission can be calculated. Ray reported that the budget called for 1,085 paid attendees, but that the current trend suggests there will be approximately 1,100. The number of day passes that will come is uncertain, however: as of the meeting time, there were 17 paid 1-day passes registered (lower than at previous meetings). Ray Pelletier also reported that Jim Martin of the NOC team now has about 14 people on the team, and that the gear was all shipped and is due to arrive Tuesday or Wednesday July 20th or 21st. 5. ISC [Internet Society of China] EVENT Ray Pelletier reported that The Internet Society of China is holding an event in conjunction with the Beijing meeting to introduce people there to the IETF, how it works, and so on. They are inviting 5-7 members of the IETF leadership to participate. Ole Jacobsen outlined the background. ISC is asking for a meeting in Maastricht in order to present the plan to the leadership. The meeting in Beijing is planned to be on Sunday. Ole suggested that they would need "blessing" for such a plan. Ray Pelletier planned to coordinate the meeting in Maastricht with a Doodle poll, with a target meeting length of one hour. Ole Jacobsen suggested that Fred Baker should also be invited, because he knows much of the background. Marshall Eubanks expressed some concern about the time commitment in Beijing. Russ Housley agreed, and said Sundays are so full at the IETF meeting. Ole Jacobsen asked that such a discussion be deferred until the topic is discussed in Maastricht. Bob Hinden pointed out that this was at least going on with plenty of planning. Ole Jacobsen noted that it is better the event not happen without review. Action: Ray Pelletier to schedule the meeting session for Maastricht. 6. PRIVACY POLICY DISCUSSION There were two issues under this rubric: draft-cooper-privacy-policy and the list discussion about accessing the IETF network. On the first item, Bob Hinden noted that he had sent a review of the document to the list, and that his main worry about it is that it is too detailed. He believed instead that the IETF should emphasize that most of what it does is public, and list some specific exceptions to that general rule. Russ Housley then outlined the approach being taken to proof of authorization at Maastricht and Beijing. There are two options planned for authenticating to the WLAN. The first is to peg authorization to an attendee's registration number. Numbers are generated in a predictable way, then there are four random digits at the end. Bob Hinden asked if the number space was sparse, and Russ Housley responded that it was not. Marshall Eubanks asked if a non-sparse number space would be sufficient for Beijing. Russ answered that if it was not, it could be changed for that meeting. The other authentication scheme relies on slips of paper that one can get from registration. Ray Pelletier asked about the role of certificates in this. Russ Housley detailed how the certificates are used to authenticate a web portal, to be used by people who cannot authenticate using the standard method (this is rather like the portal one encounters in a hotel, where one's MAC address is added to an authorization list. Authorization will last for the duration of the meeting.) Marshall Eubanks asked whether this would be a permanent feature, and Russ Housley said the decision was not yet made (and that he did not want to make it). Bob Hinden said it should be discussed after Beijing, but that the central question will be whether it is needed. 7. MAASTRICHT SCHEDULE Ray Pelletier discussed the IAOC schedule for the week, with an IAOC breakfast meeting Wednesday from 0730 - 0900 and two office hours coinciding with the breaks before the Plenaries on Wednesday and Thursday. Ray Pelletier noted that the acknowledgement of DNSSEC is not on the Plenary schedule yet. Russ Housley agreed, and said it was because the details were still being worked out. Eric Burger noted that there was 30 minutes devoted to changing the three-level standards model the IETF currently uses, and asked whether 30 would be enough. Russ Housley said he had set it to 30 minutes on purpose, that it will be an open microphone, and that he expects consensus to emerge quickly. Lynn St. Amour reported that she would have an update about the DNSSEC celebrations later in the day, and that people should look for an invitation to a reception in honour of the Postel Award recipient. With no further business, Bob Hinden adjourned the meeting at 14:55 UTC.