IAOC Meeting
2013-01-17 -5 UTC / 10:00 EST
Bernard Aboba [PRESENT]
Scott Bradner [ABSENT]
Dave Crocker [PRESENT]
Bob Hinden [PRESENT, Chair]
Russ Housley [ABSENT]
Ole Jacobsen [PRESENT]
Ray Pelletier [PRESENT, IAD]
Lynn St. Amour [ABSENT]
Mia McAuley [SCRIBE]
IAOC Agenda
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1. Minutes
12-11-29
12-12-13
2. Bits-N-Bites 2013
3. Servers Colo Status Report
4. 2013 IETF Meeting Venues Publication
5. RSE Support
6. AOB
Bob called the meeting to order at 10:05 AM EST.
1. Minutes
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Minutes from 12-11-29 and 12-12-13 have been reviewed and both require
some modification. They will be taken up for approval at the next
meeting after further review.
2. Bits-N-Bites 2013
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Ray reported on his meeting with the Internet Society. ISOC supports a
Bits-N-Bites (BnB) target revenue goal of $225k, at $65k, $75k, and
$85k for Orlando, Berlin and Vancouver, respectively. Additionally,
ISOC will add personnel to the effort in addition to Drew.
BnB 2013 Financial Goals:
i. Revenue: $225k (up from original proposal of $150k)
ii. Expenses: $135k (up from original proposal of $120k*)
iii. Net: $90k
*2013 IAOC budget set aside $120k for expenses. The additional $15k to
cover additional space in Berlin, and miscellaneous.
Ray said the BnB 2013 Financial Goals would be tracked separately from
the IETF 2013 budget.
RESOLUTION:
The IAOC approves the Bits-N-Bites program for 2013 with a financial
goal of $225,000 and a net gain of $90,000.
Bob makes the motion but for Ôrevenue goalÕ not Ôfinancial goal.Õ
Bernard seconds.
Discussion ensued about the logic behind the original and new numbers.
Ray said he would check into that.
It was noted that ISOC has discussed this and has proposed a higher
number and additional resources required to achieve it.
It was suggested that these numbers be approved but ask ISOC for a plan
on how they plan to achieve these numbers. The IAOC concluded that it
would ask for a 2-year business plan for this event.
There was no lack of consensus for approving the program with the IAOC
understanding that part of the reason for that is that 1) time is of
the essence, and 2) ISOC needs to develop a business plan for how
theyÕre going to achieve the result, and 3) the IAOC is looking for the
Bits-N-Bites Procedures Guide being drafted by the Secretariat.
[DAVID KESSENS JOINS]
Bob Hinden [YES]
Bernard Aboba [YES]
Dave Crocker [YES]
Ole Jacobsen [YES]
The resolution carries.
Not included as part of the vote, but it is noted that Russ and Scott
said via email they approve of the resolution.
3. Servers Colo Status Report
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Bob gave an update on the servers colocation project. He, Joel
Jaeggli, Jim Martin and Dave Crocker met with AMS.
Glenn at AMS was very receptive to the additional requirements the IAOC
is proposing. A lot of the discussion was what the requirements meant,
which were very good. They are moving forward with this for their other
clients. The IAOC will hear back with more specifics for how theyÕre
going to do this. They believe the colo they have in Orlando meets some
of the requirements. TheyÕre looking into the other things such as
physical server redundancy.
In the next month the IAOC will have a more concrete plan from AMS on
next steps. The IAOC needs to see if we can find people who might be
willing to donate colo facility for a reduced cost or for free to the
IETF.
In regards to timing, there are two parts: the physical side of moving
things out of AMSÕs server room in Freemont to a hosting facility.
ThatÕs probably a month-6 months project. The other requires
application changes that are a longer-term project; probably a 12-24
month project. It may require additional development.
4. 2013 IETF Meeting Venues Publication
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Ray noted that there was discussion on the IETF list and the IAOC list
about providing advance information about the venue location.
The Meetings Committee considered the matter of how soon to tell the
community about the actual hotel for an upcoming meeting. Discussions
on the advantages of telling the hotels earlier were had.
The benefits: transparency and an early planning opportunity. Concerns:
making plans so far in advance and then canceling; which might end in
the loss of the hotel commissions.
The practice has been not to announce the hotel until registration
opens for an IETF meeting. However, it is common for other
organizations like the IEEE to include an announcement of the meeting
venue as much as one year in advance.
The Meetings Committee would like to try an experiment by announcing
and publishing online the hotels for 2013 to see what the community
response is and what the impact might be on AMS and the number. The
announcement and notice online will indicate the approximate date when
hotel reservations open. The Registration to the IETF meeting itself
will not change, which is approximately 12 weeks prior the meeting. The
point was made that we need to make clear it's an experiment and may be
discontinued, as some practices are really hard to take back.
It should be made clear that the IETF and hotel registration is not
opening earlier than previously.
No further discussion occurring, Ray took it for action and will be
notifying the Secretariat to get the notice online for the hotels and
email to IETF-announce.
5. RSE Support
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Ray reported that the RFC Series Editor has asked for Joyce Reynolds to
be engaged for about a 4-month period to:
i. review the Style Guide;
ii. help understand its historical context and
iii. how that informed decisions in the Style Guide.
Joyce is uniquely qualified; there are very few people who would be in
that position.
The IAD has been in contact with Joyce to ascertain her availability,
willingness to undertake the work and identify a fee for the
project. Joyce is available, interested and willing to undertake the
work. A fee of is acceptable.
RESOLUTION:
The IAOC approves a budget of for the
Style Guide Review Project and requests the Internet Society to execute
such agreements with Joyce Reynolds as needed to undertake the
project. The funds will come from the RFC expense budget.
Bob moved and Dave seconded the motion to pass the resolution.
Bob Hinden [YES]
Bernard Aboba [YES]
Dave Crocker [YES]
Ole Jacobsen [YES]
The motion passed.
6. AOB
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There was no additional business to discuss.
Bob adjourned the IAOC meeting at 10:37 am EST.